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Oak Mountain Recap

Posted 2 years ago by pzerbo - 60 comments Link: http://phi.sh/b/50385892

We’re now fully in the swing of tour, show #6 of summer leg #2. Tonight the band returns to an old Phish haunt not visited in thirteen years, Oak Mountain Amphitheatre in Pelham, AL, a ~10,000-seat all-reserved open-air venue. This was the third Phish show at this facility (10/15/94 & 9/28/99) and the seventh in the state of Alabama. This show was provided as an official LivePhish webcast. Let’s cut to the action.

Possum” starts off, a little “early” @ 7:55 local time. Uneventful but fun, a quick break and then “Cities,” an easy call given the “A lot of bridges in... Birmingham” line which received the requisite crowd appreciation. An unusually rough rendition of “Sample in a Jar” was next, about which the less said, the better. “Timber” held early promise but retreated into it’s 3.0 shell before it developed into something interesting, giving way to a solid if concise version of “Back on the Train.”

In a rare instance of Trey getting his facts right from the stage, he noted that “It’s good to be back here, it’s been like thirteen years or something. Thanks for having us back. The people in the back are much higher than they were the last time!” Page then came to center stage to deliver “Lawn Boy” which was dedicated “to the people out on the edges of the venue that [couldn’t] quite see him at his piano.” Trey then dedicated a comparatively rare first set “Down with Disease” to “the people out on the tiny strip of lawn.” A quick proto-jam is abandoned in favor of a proper finish to the song, followed by an unadorned “Gumbo,” “Ginseng Sullivan” and “The Wedge.” The crowd is then treated to a string of set closers: a workable though unspectacular sequence of “Julius” > “Cavern” and “While My Guitar Gently Weeps.”

So, does this 85-minutes of Phish beat a sharp stick in the eye? You bet it does. Was it a good first set, for Phish? That is of course for the listener to decide. My humble opinion: no real flow, safe song choices, no jamming (almost impossible with thirteen songs)... it is a tough set to love. Let’s all take a breather, regroup, and hope for a more inspired second half, shall we?

Set two opens with “Rock and Roll,” a song that had provided so many thrills and chills in its last performance, the monster from 8/15/12 in Long Beach. The peaks of Long Beach wouldn’t quite be scaled here, but it was a great jam nevertheless, two major segments – hard driving power, yielding to the spacey jam that has been so prevalent in the last year or so. This jam could have extended (much) further but had evidently run it’s course and dissolves into “The Lizards!” The second of 2012 and only the eighth since Phish’s 2009 return to the stage, this fan-favorite was mostly well-played and delightful. “Halley’s Comet” is next, adding to the list of “short songs made jamming vehicles made back into short songs” from this night (“Cities,” “Timber,” “Gumbo”).

Sand” then blasts out of the gates and throws down a solid dose of hard-driving power funk, before shifting into a short transition of Humpback-infused space that led into “Twist.” A delightful jam was building and offering a glimpse into soaring possibilities when the first truly jarring rip-cord of the night produced “Birds of a Feather.” “Birds” was on virtual 78-rpm speed and ended almost as soon as it began – wham, bam, thank you, ma'am! This song-filled set cruises on high-octane funk with a very quick “Boogie On Reggae Woman” into a typically soaring “2001.” “Waste” finally brings this rip-roaring energy train of a set into the station for a needed breather, and a lovely “Slave to the Traffic Light” takes us home to end this ten-song set. A “Good Times Bad Times” encore closes the door, and we’re off to the ATL tomorrow.

This gig did not nearly reach the heights scaled earlier in this leg (LB, SF3) but it wasn’t without its high points. The first set was a grab bag of entertaining songs but without anything in the way of long-lasting highlights. “Rock and Roll” -> “The Lizards” was a spectacular opening sequence to the second set, and both “Sand” and “Twist,” though not all-time versions by any means, offered their fair share of rewards. Whether in attendance or rocking the couch, this was mostly a fun dance party, as well it should be.

We’ll be back tomorrow. Drive safe, folks!

Comments

noodlesmcintosh Reply
I thought this show was very solid throughout. It was very well played, but I don't think it will be remembered as well as LB and SF3. Still above average though.
Score: 2
Fitz2001 Reply
Fitz2001 Sound pretty average to me
Score: 1
Plicculus Reply
Plicculus Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
Score: 0
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown Below average shows happen - by definition.
Score: 4
goatsticks Reply
goatsticks @Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
Check the stats brah

Score: 0
pzerbo Phish.net Staff Reply
pzerbo @Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
Score: 4
mcgrupp81 Reply
Only caught the 2nd set. Rock and roll-good. Everything else-nothing special. 2nd Set overall had a laid back vibe. High hopes for ATL tomorrow.
Score: 0
ivy_light Reply
ivy_light Nice recap, @pzerbo!

Having just listened to the spectacular R&R > Ghost from last year's show in Charlotte (8/17/11), I had high hopes when they started the second set with it tonight. But, alas, it would not compare. Tonight's show - while certainly well-played throughout - was, in a word, tantalizing. Having brought so many songs capable of producing extended improvisation, I'd have thought that at least one would have fully made it out of the gate if not lapped the whole track. I'm not disappointed at all. Just left a little unsatisfied, is all.

Regardless, tonight's outing certainly increases the intrigue of the next few shows. Will lengthier jams and sweet-ass segues be incorporated into the Atlanta and Charlotte performances? We'll see. One thing's for certain: Phish has an uncanny ability to keep us all guessing, a skill they've nearly perfected this tour.

See you all in Charlotte!
Score: 3
ivy_light Reply
ivy_light Oops! The date for last year's Charlotte show was 6/17/11. Not 8/17/11.

Time for bed :/
Score: 0
hrc333 Reply
This felt like a nod to the drunk frat boy crowd that was this show. I can't recall a show that had this much talking. In fact, I told my friend this must have been what the first Phish show was like. A drunk frat crowd not really listening to Phish. They should have played Thriller at the end of this show.

The Rock-n-Roll was nice, but nothing else in the show will be re-listened to. I felt like in Twist, it was not really rip corded but simply Trey turned to the others, knew they would lose the crowd with any serious improv and choose to Rock out the rest of the set. Let's hope the crowd is read for more serious music tomorrow in the ATL.
Score: 2
tvlxql9x Reply
^this previous post is baffling, the band plays a song oriented show and because it's in what appears to be the drunk frat boy state (no one's filled me in in my three years living here) its clearly the band pandering to us Alabama folk who don't understand improv.

The band plays song oriented shows sometimes, and as far as those go I thought this one was extremely well played. Definitely not one for surprises, but mike was brilliant in boogie on and trey was on fire all night.
Score: 5
Posterdog Reply
Posterdog I felt the first set was much better than reviewed. A solid show overall that IMO had great promise, but although did not deliver the full load did not disappoint. The band definitely was having fun with the crowd interaction, and that does not mean that they were simply catering to the "drunk frat boy crowd". An overall great show that I feel deserves more credit than it has been given in the slim moments that have been available to review it.
Score: 4
BurningShoreProphet Reply
BurningShoreProphet agree w posterdog. sick of the snivelling reviews that want all time jams in every song. be grateful this band is throwing down fire as they enter their 30th year...there is no substitute.
Score: 3
colonelforbin112894 Reply
colonelforbin112894 I read these show reviews, but, I really don't know why I read them. My first show was inBozeman, Mt. On 11-28-94. I love this band as much as i did 18 years ago, maybe more. I can't wait until my next show. All that will not change, never. What will change, though, is me and mike, trey, fish, and page. How they play and what they play will change as well. Different times and differe.t experiences, and i love it all! Don't limit yourself, change is natural!
Score: 6
Plicculus Reply
Plicculus @pzerbo said:
@Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
Nice I didn't realize that you could check other people's shows as well....that's dope you saw them in 91 at Sommerville Theater...I've seen a handful of shows there, so small and intimate; must've been a real treat seeing them there. I missed the webcast tonight and with mixed reviews, it's usually somewhat tough judging how shows are without hearing them for yourself....135 shows though to me means that you know and love the phish and your review can be trusted....
_"the force is strong in this one!"_
Score: 1
colonelforbin112894 Reply
colonelforbin112894 @BurningShoreProphet said:
agree w posterdog. sick of the snivelling reviews that want all time jams in every song. be grateful this band is throwing down fire as they enter their 30th year...there is no substitute.
Steelhead420, you are right on!
Score: 2
Ouish Reply
Ouish Nice stats bro!
Score: 0
justalilphreakedout Reply
it was a pretty solid phish show.
nothing really *got there* ya know what i mean but it was a rocking good time
song selection was good imo and i thought the second set flowed nicely enough to offset any lack in the *out there* department. rock and roll flirted with it and got to a nice place for a few minutes. slave was great per usual. fun stuff
Score: 0
thedudeabides Reply
thedudeabides Great review pzerb. I do concur. That's awesome you saw so many great shows in Ohio back in the day, I might add. Good times
Score: 0
tdub36 Reply
Ya'll have not heard this band for a long time. This was a solid setlist and had great song selection for the venue. I love the jams and the way it flows. People that are to critacule have a lot to learn about live music and how it is put together and seen as a big picture. The boys are on point and twisting every turn. Thanks for the reconnection years, live styley.l
Score: 0
thedudeabides Reply
thedudeabides Whoops. I'm wrong. My bad
Score: 0
kowphish Phish.net Staff Reply
kowphish WMGGW was spectacular, best song of set 1 (Timber Ho was second best), a highlight of the show and a definite tour highlight which should be on any compilation CD for the Summer 2012 tour. The type of performance that makes you say, when this band wants to be on they can be spectacular. Trey delivers the solo with total concentration and grace, the song moves with a nice pace from Fish and Mike, and even at the end Trey tries to make the guitar weep. Terrific version. As you can tell really enjoyed it. Now time to download it to see if I am right.
Score: 2
mgouker Reply
mgouker I watched the webcast from a hotel in St Gallen, in Switzerland. I actually thought it was a pretty good show. Lack of jams? Well, the Twist quite a lot with the Santana jam was definitely digable. The end of Boogie too... In any case, having the pleasure of watching a Phish show before going to work cannot be appreciated enough. It's only getting me through the day!

Where is the Lakewood webcast? Pretty please!!! Charlotte too. (begging)

Peace from Florida,

Michael
Score: 0
mutternature Reply
This review is full of shit. Last night was incredible.
Seems to me you don't like or get it anymore. Time for you to take a break!
Score: -2
ELevine86 Reply
Phans are trying way too hard to settle. You can save yourself a lot of money by staying home and making yourself a greatest hits mix of phish studio songs. We all know that Trey knows his scales and can peak. That gets old very fast.

It's not about song length, it's about quality. That being said, quality usually comes from patience with this band and these days, Trey has none whatsoever. When Phish jams once every 3 shows, people can't wait to say "See! They still jam!". But it's not about "Jamming". They need to relax and get that child's eye again (like Mike talks about in the IT dvd), that desire to find something new and different. It just seems that Trey can't stop thinking about what he wants to play next and all he wants to do is scream with his guitar.

I think 2010, when they were learning Waiting for Columbus, is the best Phish since they've been back because Trey was patient. Hearing Trey peak 3 minute solos for 10 set closers in a row is just boring. To each their own though.
Score: 0
smellslikemule Reply
Unfortunately I agree.

I have been seeing phish since 1994 and have taken in some incredible shows. Phish is different these days but still put on an incredible show. In respect to "tightness" the band is better than ever, seasoned professional studied musicians at their best.

I wonder if these reviewers are actually having any fun out there??? The shallow reviews certainly don't suggest it.

I have loved this site for many years but unfortunately the reviews are elementary at best.
Score: 2
floydwilkey Reply
@tvlxql9x said:
^this previous post is baffling, the band plays a song oriented show and because it's in what appears to be the drunk frat boy state (no one's filled me in in my three years living here) its clearly the band pandering to us Alabama folk who don't understand improv.

The band plays song oriented shows sometimes, and as far as those go I thought this one was extremely well played. Definitely not one for surprises, but mike was brilliant in boogie on and trey was on fire all night.
We're you at the show? Meet loads of (drunk) people seeing their first phish show. This is Widespread Panics home turf. Apparently Panic is on hiatus and lots of people are able to crossover. It's not a knock on Alabama just a statement of the facts as they on the ground last night.
Score: 0
ericwyman Phish.net Staff Reply
ericwyman @Plicculus said:
@pzerbo said:
@Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
135 shows though to me means that you know and love the phish and your review can be trusted....
_"the force is strong in this one!"_
I've only seen 60 shows. Where do I rank on the trust scale?
Score: 2
LightsWentOut Reply
LightsWentOut One of the more common things I have seen noted in show reviews is how "re-listenable" a certain set/song/show is. I am not here to knock that. I completely understand what that means. However, I recently have been going back and listening to shows from leg I and have been "rediscovering" so much good stuff that was overlooked at the time. I think there is a lesson in there somewhere.
Score: 0
GAphishin Reply
I too was at the show last night. The 300 sectn of once was lawn was interesting upon walk in and a total pain in the rump for me as far as a decent place to enjoy last nights show.
No room to spread out and dance. Drunks everywhere getting in the way of my ability to llet go. Catching people on their fall backs and fall downs as I was on the aisle.
I felt the music was sweet, but I desired the above mentioned r&r, twist, and sand to go further.
In typical phish ashon, Slave produced a few tears and an immense build to the white lights at the close of the song. Plus many of the drunks were sleeping by that time.
Looking forward to the next two nights as they are my only shows this summer.
Score: 1
nichobert Reply
nichobert "think there is a lesson in there somewhere."

Yup, it's that 2012 Phish is so amazing at their craft that they can make a 4 minute Farmhouse endlessly repeatable. And they have. Last summer I got stuck on the Gorge (Tahoe?) one. Now i'm stuck on Alpine.

Farmhouse'd?!?
Score: 2
EdwardGRobinson Reply
EdwardGRobinson This show seems to have sucked as bad the first night of SF, which is to say not at all. If this is what passes for average these days I will take it. Thanks Phish. You da man!
Score: 1
metawhy Reply
metawhy @ELevine86 said:
quality usually comes from patience with this band and these days, Trey has none whatsoever. When Phish jams once every 3 shows, people can't wait to say "See! They still jam!". But it's not about "Jamming". They need to relax and get that child's eye again (like Mike talks about in the IT dvd), that desire to find something new and different. It just seems that Trey can't stop thinking about what he wants to play next and all he wants to do is scream with his guitar.
I agree, patience and open attentive listening seem to be necessary to take it to the "next level." Maybe it is the crowds, with their poor attention spans and video and cell phones and endless desire to quantify and compartmentalize.

Score: 0
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown Tihs revue is way to critacule and the revuer is Wilson and cant have fun adn probably torchers kittens, this show was sicky sick and amazing and way above average just like every Phish show is an above average Phish show and every song Phish plays is above average for Phish. If you dont get that then you should stop coming to shows. I don't rember what they played last night but it was the best version of that song. If I ever see this revuer at a show I will pound in his face and eat his ears because he obviessly doesnt use them anyway. Stop righting these revues so i can stop reading them.
Score: 17
sirhotpants Reply
sirhotpants @BurningShoreProphet said:
agree w posterdog. sick of the snivelling reviews that want all time jams in every song. be grateful this band is throwing down fire as they enter their 30th year...there is no substitute.
Yeah, I need to echo this. I'm through reading recaps and reviews appearing on the .net homepage. I don't need to read them, because I know what they'll say: "blah blah they need to jam more," "blah blah this wasn't funky enough," "blah blah this wasn't long enough." I feel sorry for the lot of you who need calculators, graphs, and stopwatches to enjoy the band.
Score: -1
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown @sirhotpants, if we promise to call Atlanta the Best Show Ever regardless of what they play and how they play it, will you stay? We could even write the recap in advance of the show, with blanks where the song titles are, and submit it for your approval.

Think it over.
Score: 7
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown I already got started on it. Here is an excerpt:

"Then Trey counted off _______, which turned out to" be easily the best version played since Big Cypress, or the last show I saw, which was _______. Chris Kuroda was going crazy on the lights -- he's awesome, am I right? Also, I had a really juicy burger in the lot and for some reason kept thinking about that during this best-ever cosmic jam sandwich that was ______. Then there was _______, which is one of my favoritest Phish songs, and they destroyed it again (but when don't they?)."
Score: 7
betweenbeams Reply
Its a fine line between reviewing a show and being overly critical. Everyone has an opinion and they are allowed to express it. I think a lot of people are rough on the band. Although last nights Gumbo had zero jam, I do not think Gumbo, Ginseng, and Wedge were "unadorned." Wedge in particular was pretty tight and i personally havent heard Ginseng in a long time and was stoked on its appearance.
In regards to patience, I truly believe that the boys are able to practice more patience then earlier in 3.0 and are trying to be aware of it. Last night at the start of 2001 trey motioned to fish to go slow, or wait on the drum beat for a minute or two.
One must go into shows with low expectations, even if ur on a couch, and enjoy the ride. R&R> Lizards was killer!
Remember that the band does look at reviews and comments and are affected by everyone's critical responses. That is what Kuroda said at All Good Fest, right?
Score: 0
Scott Reply
There have been some front page reviews that I thought were hypercritical/clueless but this is not one of them. I don't care for his writing style but Zerbo definitely knows his stuff. Read the last paragraph of the review again, that's not sniveling.

I webcasted and had a great time dancing my butt off but I am probably not going to download this show for the reasons articulated in the review.

It does seem like every show has at least a few distinctive highlights, and that many non-jam corners in the composed music have gotten refreshed with some subtle creativity, so I find lots to like in every show. But not every show is special.
Score: 3
sirhotpants Reply
sirhotpants @bertoletdown - since you're taking it so personally, I'd like you to go through and tally the number of times this summer that front-page reviews say something along the lines of '...but then they didn't jam it out enough.' It's too often. The overall consensus is, 'it sucks that it isn't 1997 anymore,' and if that's the type of criticism that's standard-issue, I don't need to read it. Get into another band that's more 'now' or something, if Phish's jam vehicles aren't going down your idealized highways any longer.
Score: -4
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown @Scott - agree with nearly everything you wrote but I do personally consider every show a special experience. They're just not created equal is all.

There are people who are obsessed with truffles who spend all their free time searching for, preparing, tasting, comparing, and discussing truffles. While I like truffles, there's no way I am remotely as passionate about truffles as these people are, because I don't choose to spend every waking free moment pondering truffles. And those people understand that all truffles are not created equal, which is what makes some truffles truly transcendent. In a way, it's the common, below average truffle that allows you to define the mindblowing, once-in-a-lifetime truffle -- because if you do not acknowledge the former, you can't describe the latter. And a truffle that blows my mind when shaved over a dish of risotto might draw scorn from a truffle connoisseur. That doesn't make him any less passionate about truffles, and if I'm doing it right, it shouldn't deaden my own experience.

Wow, that's a tortured metaphor if I ever read one.

:: hits "add comment" button ::
Score: 2
sirhotpants Reply
sirhotpants @bertoletdown - That's actually not a tortured metaphor at all. It makes sense and it's nicely said, so I see where you're coming from.

:: adds white truffle oil to our shopping list and chooses a show to listen to for the upcoming road trip ::
Score: 2
bertoletdown Phish.net Staff Reply
bertoletdown Thanks @sirhotpants. I don't take it personally at all. But I do think if you go back through the recaps of this tour, you will find praise where it's merited -- which has been frequently.

Cheers.
Score: 2
spaced Reply
spaced Jesus, you'd think from these responses that the reviewer trashed the show or something. He just said it was a fun, entertaining show, but without any knock-you-on-your-ass highlight moments. Apparently for the review police, this equates to him being some jaded Debbie Downer who doesn't like Phish anymore and should "take a break" from seeing them. Comical.
Score: 6
Jayem Reply
Jayem @spaced said:
Jesus, you'd think from these responses that the reviewer trashed the show or something. He just said it was a fun, entertaining show, but without any knock-you-on-your-ass highlight moments. Apparently for the review police, this equates to him being some jaded Debbie Downer who doesn't like Phish anymore and should "take a break" from seeing them. Comical.
I normally don't comment on the show recaps but if I did I would have said this.

Score: 5
Plicculus Reply
Plicculus @ericwyman said:
@Plicculus said:
@pzerbo said:
@Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
135 shows though to me means that you know and love the phish and your review can be trusted....
_"the force is strong in this one!"_
I've only seen 60 shows. Where do I rank on the trust scale?
Well in all honesty, when you think about it and bring it down to brass tax, it's all in the ears and eyes of beholder, so to speak; whoever experienced any given show can have a completely different experience than another guy who was standing right next to him at the show, or even on the couch. Yes, I won't deny that certain points out of any show can collectively be deemed as amazing, or lackluster...nonetheless, I stand by the individualized experience 'theory'- wherein no matter what, there will always be people who dislike certain songs or aspects of a given show, but on the other hand- as I stated before, there will always be the other guy who had a completely different experience-

-it really is all in the ears/eyes of the beholder of their personal experience; only exception is certain objective points of a show that most seasoned fans would agree upon
Score: 0
easywind111 Reply
easywind111 I think you guys do a great job and I appreciate the time and effort. Please keep up the good work.
Score: 1
23piper Reply
23piper Fish is no longer in their late 20s or mid 30s. They no longer take ecstasy, mushrooms, or LSD. This isn't a rave or burning man. They aren't obligated to jam out anything anymore. They've been touring now long enough for folks to their decision. Do you like this new breed of fish? Do you think you understand what the band is trying to do? Did you judge a performance against the band's expectations? Or your own? I for one like the mellow, laid-back, sophisticated, precise, beautiful, professional, adult, sound of fish 3.0. Signed Siri
Score: 1
BakeSaleBoy Reply
@pzerbo said:
@Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
Looks like this was your first trip to the south for a Phish show. Enjoy yourself??
Score: 0
pzerbo Phish.net Staff Reply
pzerbo @spaced said:
Jesus, you'd think from these responses that the reviewer trashed the show or something. He just said it was a fun, entertaining show, but without any knock-you-on-your-ass highlight moments. Apparently for the review police, this equates to him being some jaded Debbie Downer who doesn't like Phish anymore and should "take a break" from seeing them. Comical.
Actually, this advice to "take a break" from seeing Phish was so well considered and thoughtful that I decided it was a good enough idea to put into action. Thus, I am in fact taking a break. I will not attend any Phish shows between San Francisco and Dick's.

Thanks so much for all of your help! :-)
Score: 2
Phishvillian Reply
The second set was pure heat. Incredible show in my opinion. Loved it and it was great to see Oak Mountain packed the way it used to be for real Panic shows back in the day. It's a great venue when it's packed and the band on stage actually cares about their fans and puts a product worth watching on the stage
Score: 0
forbins0218 Reply
forbins0218 I loved all the banter between GBOT and Lawn Boy as well as after lawn boy. My banter scale is like this....

The more banter = the happier the band is!
Score: 0
23piper Reply
23piper I knew my original post would not be popular thought I am little surprised to get 2 thumbs down without anyone refuting my position. I think it's very clear that Phish are attempting to reinvent themselves. They are tighter than ever, having a great time on stage together most nights, and playing a wide variety of songs over the course of the tour. The only thing missing is the long jams and night after night right as the jams that do occur truly get cooking a rip chord is pulled or new song suddenly segued, etc. This is not a mistake or a lack of skill or anything else aside from a creative decision. Occasionally, things come together and the jams flow, which clearly are the most popular nights for most longtime fans. Still, it really seems like a lot of us are missing the fact that many of these 4 to 6 minute songs are played better than ever and listen upon listen reveals bustling creativity within them. So, I think show criticisms need to take into account what Phish actually cares about right now and it's not 15+ minute jams sprinkled throughout each set night after night. But what it is is there for those who have ears and heart to listen and I am very, very pleased with I hear. This band has always challenged their audiences and kept changing how they play. 3.0 is so technically flawless, that I really think folks need to get on the bus and hear what is going down more acutely rather than comparing each night to any previous period of the bands history.
Score: 2
spaced Reply
spaced 3.0 is technically flawless? They're "tighter than ever"? I'm sorry, but early- to mid-90's Phish would like a word with you. I have no problem whatsoever with the way they are playing now, but seriously, people, let's not go overboard here.
Score: 2
23piper Reply
23piper They were very tight with way less songs under their belt and they had close to zero funk and ambient tendencies with which to toy in the early 90s so I don't think it's a fair comparison. The sheer breadth of 2012 is unmatched. But I admit when I typed "3.0", I was thinking "2012" - the 3 previous years were not as consistently on fire.
Score: 0
23piper Reply
23piper I'm fully comfortable going overboard, if that's what it takes.

I saw the Rolling Stones for the first time in 2003. Was that their heyday? Was the entire audience hanging on every night? Was there real socio-political significance to the show?

No.

Was I blown away by their sheer professionalism and talent as entertainers? Did my jaw drop time and time again as they rocked out old numbers with shocking exuberance and physical acrobatics? Did they hit the notes in a way that consistently moved me to rock, reflect, and roll?

Fuck yes!

@spaced said:
3.0 is technically flawless? They're "tighter than ever"? I'm sorry, but early- to mid-90's Phish would like a word with you. I have no problem whatsoever with the way they are playing now, but seriously, people, let's not go overboard here.
Score: 0
AlbanyYEM Reply
AlbanyYEM @ericwyman said:
@Plicculus said:
@pzerbo said:
@Plicculus said:
Pzerbo, just curious, how many shows have your seen?
If you click on any user name and then click "shows" you'll see that user's show stats, provided they've entered them.
135 shows though to me means that you know and love the phish and your review can be trusted....
_"the force is strong in this one!"_
I've only seen 60 shows. Where do I rank on the trust scale?
No Euro 97?!??! Haha, but seriously that 12/95 run is droolworthy.

Though I have a friend who like to brag about seeing around 50...some 48 of which were in 09-10. Asterisk, ahem ahem cough cough. But you never know, some kid whose 20 years old might have heard hundreds of hours of tape.
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AlbanyYEM Reply
AlbanyYEM @BurningShoreProphet said:
agree w posterdog. sick of the snivelling reviews that want all time jams in every song. be grateful this band is throwing down fire as they enter their 30th year...there is no substitute.
All phish shows are equal, but some are more equal than others.
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TwiceBitten Reply
TwiceBitten Late to this discuss, but all I'd like to say that if 8/24/12 is below average for this year (which I'm not arguing it isn't), then Phish has had one hell of a year so far, can I get an amen? It's best not to forget those years filled with horrible flubs and go nowhere jamming.
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